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Say something about
the circumstances of the
writing of A Letter to Daniel
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Letter to Daniel rose
from a phone call which came to me when I was
based in Hong Kong, from the
editor of From our own Correspondent at the BBC. He rang and suggested
that I write a piece about the experience of becoming a father while based
abroad as a foreign correspondent. At the time I was slightly reluctant to
do
it and said ring me back in a few days. In the intervening period Daniel came
out of hospital and I was at home, doing my best to help Ann with him, and I
just sat down and wrote the piece very, very early one morning, just after
getting him off to sleep. It was one of those pieces
I think it took me
maybe an hour to write, and it just flowed. It just came out. There wasn't
very
much revision involved, it was very natural.
What was the audience's response to it on the
radio?
It was a phenomenal response. Nothing I did before and
nothing
I've done since
in terms of radio broadcasting has elicited the same response. I had hundreds
and hundreds of letters from people who'd heard the broadcast, many of them
talking about their own experiences of childhood and their experiences of
becoming parents, I had one letter from a man who was at the South Pole with
the British Antarctic Survey, and he was writing his letter to me by oil lamp
in a tent, and talking about his own childhood and what he'd gone through - a
lot of people sharing very, very deep personal experience, and I found that
quite humbling.
Do you think you were
touching on something new
writing about this?
One hesitates
to say that. It's the account
of a universal experience, that's what people responded to, because there
were
a lot of people who wrote to me who had no children, but everybody had
parents,
and a very strong element of Letter to Daniel, the particular piece
itself, was about the relationship with parents and about how we attempt to
repair and understand what happened in our childhoods. I think that helped
me,
in the many letters that I received, which were from people who'd come to
terms
with what had happened in their childhood. That helped me along a journey of
coming to terms, of understanding.
How do you see the value of individual lives in the
context
of reporting politics and wider issues - do you think there's a way of
approaching that subject?
I think there are different
reporters
for different kinds of reporting, and I wouldn't want to say that my style,
which focuses very much on individuals, is what everybody else should do.
That
being said, I think a journalism which forgets that great international
affairs
are fundamentally about people, is a dangerous kind of journalism, because it
exists in an abstract. It becomes a debate solely about ideas and policies
and
forgets that the people at the very end of the scale are human beings. They
are
the people who have to live with the mistakes made by the politicians, they
have to live with the propaganda pushed out by the apologists for different
politicians. So in terms of what I do myself, I think there is a singular
value
in taking down the stories of people's lives - and be very detailed about how
one does it. It is easy to look at a huge mass of people and see them as just
Africans. It's more important for me to go out and find a particular person
to
tell the story of their life as a means of bringing the reader into bigger
truths.
Is this quite a controversial
discussion going on
within reporting? Your books and reporting have been extremely well received
but attacked in some quarters
We live in a country that is
lucky
enough not to have known war and civil conflict for half a century. In that
context you fill acres of newsprint arguing about the journalism of human
involvement, journalism which has emotion in it. There's plenty of time to
worry about things like that. The places I go to and report from are not
places
where people have that luxury, so I tend to pay very little attention to the
obsessive navel-gazing which dominates British journalism nowadays. I think
we
need more reporting, we need more people going out and finding stories,
rather
than listening to each other's opinions in a very narrow metropolitan
elite.
Did the birth of Daniel affect your
professional
values?
It did. It made me conspicuously less willing to risk
my life. I think there is a kind of moral contract you make. It's implicit in
the whole business of becoming a father and staying in a family that you are
around, you will be around for your child to grow up, that you will be a
presence in their life, and I don't think it's possible to put yourself in
positions of danger repeatedly and live up to the bonds of that contract.
Therefore it has actually changed how I actually do my job. It has also
changed
hugely how I see people. I think I am inclined to be a little less judgmental
-
more inclined to stand back and think about things and less inclined to rush
into swift moral judgements about people.
How
important to you was your book about Rwanda?
Letter to Daniel marked a defining moment in my
personal life. The book on Rwanda, The Season of Blood, is an attempt
to
explain and to convey to people what was without a shadow of a doubt the
defining moment in my professional life. Covering a genocide was quite unlike
anything I'd ever experienced. I had been to war before. I'd seen war in
Angola, I'd seen the conflict in the South African townships, I'd spent a
long
long time in Northern Ireland, but nothing prepared me for the reality of
genocide. The book, The Season of Blood, is very much an eye witness
account, a day by day account of what it was like to travel through that
landscape of unimaginable slaughter, to come to terms with the idea that
people
would want to exterminate an entire ethnic group. Now you could say, well
surely after the Holocaust we shouldn't be surprised, we shouldn't struggle
to
understand something like that but I can assure you, as the book tries to
convey in pretty vivid terms, it is, to put it mildly, difficult to
understand.
Did writing the book help to sort
that out, was it
a cathartic experience?
I think writing
The Season of
Blood was a very important process for me, because I needed to set down
precisely what happened - obviously for a reading public, but also critically
to try and understand it myself. I would say about Rwanda that with me it's a
work in progress. I go back there every year now, almost. I keep going back
to
the people who are featured in The Season of Blood and talking to
them,
trying to see what has happened to their lives. I suspect when I'm a
very old
man I'll still be asking the very fundamental question of how human beings
are
capable of rising up and slaughtering people that they live beside quite
happily for generations, why are men and women capable to murdering
defenceless
little children. Perhaps the answer to that lies somewhere in the soul of
Man,
and it's not one that is comfortable to contemplate.
You recently undertook a tour of the poorest areas
in
Britain, from which your new paperback A Stranger's Eye emerged. How did
witnessing the deprivation make you feel - pessimistic, or do you think there
are possibilities for change and improvement?
I think what
makes me pessimistic is the sort of gulf of experience that exists, and that
in
our political and our journalistic class, most people have no idea how those
describe as socially excluded actually live. There are stunts from time to
time in which a politician will spend a week living in a council flat with a
camera crew following him around, but that doesn't count for a real
experience
or understanding of how people live. So there is that gulf of experience.
What
makes me more hopeful is the evidence that I found of people trying to
encourage a civil society. It is small things like the neighbourhood and
residents' groups, for example in Falmouth on the Beacon Estate, which I
describe in A Stranger's Eye. They had remarkable success in reducing
the rates of things like post-natal depression, crime, the incidence of
drug
abuse, because there is now a Residents' Association which goes around and
listens to people's concerns, and allows people to feel that they have a
voice.
Are there any books about reporting or
books of
memoirs that are particular favourites of yours that you would like to
recommend?
I adore a book by Edward Behr which is called
Anyone Here Been Raped and Speaks English [out of print]. A frightful
title, but it is what he says he heard a reporter asking in the Congo back
in
the early 1960's. I loved the book because it's honest, and it steers clear
of
the kind of piety and self-promotion which infects so many journalistic
memoirs. It's a beautiful book and it's very, very funny. The key thing to
remember about the whole business of being a foreign correspondent is that it
is possible in the midst of tragedy and sorrow (and we witness a great deal
of
that) to believe in a kind of hopeful future. Now Rwanda challenged that for
me. Edward Behr, who went right through the second world war, who went
through
Algeria, Congo and Vietnam, he managed to hold on to a fundamental optimism
about human beings and I still do. You'd go mad if you took the other
route.
The memoir that strikes me as probably the most powerful that
I've ever read
is a book by Nadia Mandelstam, the wife of Osip Mandelstam the
poet, called
Hope Against Hope [Harvill Press, £12]. Her account of their
experience under the Stalinist tyranny is really moving and I don't think
that
I could find a more powerful book in the English language. Her last letter to
her husband is written into the emptiness after he has disappeared. She is
almost convinced that he is dead and she knows he won't receive the letter. I
would recommend it to anyone - read it and it will stop your heart.
Also Raymond Carver, American short story writer and poet, is somebody who
has influenced my writing and profoundly influenced my personal life. I
came
to
him through his poetry - a book called Ultramarine, or In a Marine
Light, followed by A New Path to the Waterfall [all titles
published
in All of us, Harvill Press]. There is a simplicity which belies a
great
intelligence in his work and a real humanity in what he has to say. The poem
that he wrote towards the end of his life when he was dying from cancer - and
this was after a life of wreckage, caused by alcoholism, the last ten to
fifteen years of which he'd managed to turn around and live in a sober way -
enjoyed massive success. Ray says 'And did you get what you wanted from this
life even so?' 'I did.' 'And what did you want?' 'To call myself beloved,
to
feel myself beloved on this earth.' Magnificent.
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