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Zadie Smith on Swing Time

Zadie Smith joins David Baddiel in the Penguin studio to talk about her latest novel, Swing Time.

Zadie brings along objects including a carved wooden head, a sequinned glove and a book on Fred Astaire as she talks dancing, motherhood and the importance of knowing your roots.

'I thought it would be interesting to have a narrator who wasn't trying to present anything to anyone, who was just like an open eye, and it's everybody else you see but you don't really see her very clearly'.
 

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Zadie Smith and presenter David Baddiel

Zadie Smith and presenter David Baddiel

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